[Discuss] network admin (in-progress) needs help
Tim Holloway
timothyjholloway at gmail.com
Mon Jul 28 19:34:30 CDT 2008
hi bill.
thanks for all your help.
unfortunately, after doing everything you suggested and double- (even
triple-) checking it, this compaq still doesn't come up the way it should.
i'm going to investigate the models of routers/hubs and see if something is
simply blocking outside ip addresses.
strangely, COMPAQ_SRV has come up when i replace the dell file server with
the compaq, yet the windows computer right beside it (which i've been told
has NOTHING to do with the server and is like any other computer on the
network) can't access it.
a pop-up message comes up and tells me so... unfortunately, in my haste to
get the job done as quickly as possible, i didn't write the entire thing
down.
but i thank you for your help all the more.
if i can't solve this myself, i'll record all the steps i've taken and take
the analytical approach, breaking down the problem as much as possible so
someone more experienced won't waste a lot of time.
thanks again, bill.
cheers,
tim
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Bill Leuze <billeuze at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Hi tim
>
> I'm back home for a brief moment
>
> I see in your Dell config is quite different than the compaq.So if you
> want to just drop in the Compaq as a replacement, it'd probably work
> better to configure it the same. Just save your compaq config with a
> different name, then copy this dell config over to the compaq (but
> change the netbios name to something else while the 2 are running at the
> same time). Once you've tested and confirmed it's working, you can shut
> down the dell, change the compaq netbios name to dell_srv, restart samba
> and your users won't know that anything has changed.
>
> with this config you won't have to worry about user accounts and
> passwords, you've got it set to guest access and permissions to 777,
> it's wide open - anyone can use the one share that is setup.
>
> Probably, The only thing else to make sure of is that on your compaq,
> you have a directory (or symbolic link pointing to some other
> directory) /server/lewkowich/ and that in that directory you have
> everything that is in that directory on the dell. Also, just to be sure,
> check what the owner and permissions are in /server/lewkowich/ of the
> dell machine and make it the same in the compaq (or just set it to 777
> since that seems to be what's happening there - note, I am not
> recommending wide open permissions as a final solution. but if you just
> want it get it working the same as always before ...)
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 08:45 -0700, Tim Holloway wrote:
>
> > thank YOU, bill.
> >
> > here is a (much simpler) smb.conf from the Dell server:
> >
> >
> > [global]
> > workgroup = geotech
> > server string = DELL
> > netbios name = dell_srv
> > restrict anonymous = no
> > security = SHARE
> > password server = None
> > socket options = TCP_NODELAY
> >
> > [lewkowich]
> > path = /server/lewkowich/
> > guest ok = yes
> > writeable = yes
> > case sensitive = no
> > msdfs proxy = no
> > force user = nobody
> > force group = nobody
> > force directory mode = 0777
> > force create mode = 0777
> >
> >
> >
> > ;[global]
> > ; workgroup = GEOTECH
> > ; server string = DELL
> > ; netbios name = dell_srv
> > ; restrict anonymous = no
> > ; username map = /etc/samba/smbusers
> > ; password server = None
> > ; guest ok = yes
> >
> > ;[lewkowich]
> > ; path = /server/lewkowich
> > ; writeable = yes
> > ; guest ok = yes
> >
> >
> >
> > see how simple this file is? argh! and it's mostly commented out!
> >
> > i hope it works for me.
> >
> > tim
> >
> >
> > On 7/23/08, Bill Leuze <billeuze at shaw.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Tim
> > >
> > > we'd need to see your smb.conf from the dell server too to see what it
> > > is you are trying to do with the compaq.
> > >
> > > I'd venture a guess though as to what is going on with your duplicate
> > > name problem: The Samba server will announce itself as what is listed
> as
> > > the 'netbios name' in your smb.conf. Your 'netbios name' entry is
> > > commented out (which is probably why it announces itself as
> 'localhost'.
> > > And assuming that the Dell config is the same, then sure, they are both
> > > announcing themselves as 'localhost'. I'd suggest uncomenting and
> > > setting netbios name = Compaq. (the server string entry is what shows
> > > up in the comments column in the windows network neighbourhood browser
> -
> > > put something descriptive here like "geotech file server").
> > >
> > > Of course after editing the smb.conf you have restart the smbd and nmbd
> > > services for it to take effect. I don't how it's done on CentOS. on my
> > > system, its:
> > > /etc/init.d/samba restart
> > >
> > > Good luck. I hope someone else is tuned in tomorrow when you're trying
> > > again, I'll be gone all morning
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2008-07-23 at 19:04 -0700, Tim Holloway wrote:
> > >
> > > > thanks for your patience, bill.
> > > >
> > > > here is what i copied from smb.conf:
> > > >
> > > > #======================= Global Settings
> > > > =====================================
> > > >
> > > > [
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > i actually got this windows xp box to recognize "COMPAQ (Localhost)"
> > > among
> > > > the names of workstations on the network, but i get a message saying
> that
> > > > //Localhost is not accessible, you might not have permission, then
> "You
> > > were
> > > > not connected because a duplicate name exists on the network"; go to
> > > system
> > > > in control panel to change the computer name then try again.
> > > >
> > > > of course, when i do so on this particular computer, (the windows box
> > > next
> > > > to the temporary COMPAQ server), i'm allowed to rename the windows
> > > > computer....
> > > >
> > > > anyway, i think i'm giving up for today. too much coffee... can't
> think
> > > > straight.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks for your attention, though. i appreciate it. will try again
> > > tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >
> > > > tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Bill Leuze <billeuze at shaw.ca>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Tim
> > > > >
> > > > > How about you post the /etc/samba/smb.conf files of the old dell
> and of
> > > the
> > > > > new compaq for us to look at
> > > > >
> > > > > And I'm assuming that the directories you are sharing with the dell
> > > samba
> > > > > server also exist on the compaq server with the same path and the
> same
> > > > > permissions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lets start with the smb.conf to see what is your config
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill
> > > > >
> > > > > At 05:11 PM 2008-07-23, you wrote:
> > > > > >oh, and the real issue, of course, is that, even though i've set
> up
> > > > > >everything besides the users, the share isn't appearing on the
> > > network...
> > > > > >however, the workgroup, when i'd labeled it differently, DID
> appear on
> > > the
> > > > > >windows box by the server... but when i clicked on it, i got
> nowhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >cheers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Tim Holloway <
> > > timothyjholloway at gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> hi bill.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> the server i'm going to temporarily replace works fine. it's the
> > > dell.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> what i'm going to be doing in a few minutes is replacing it with
> a
> > > > > compaq
> > > > > >> on which i've installed centOS 5.2 (with gnome, kde, server, and
> the
> > > > > server
> > > > > >> - gui items added during install).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> i was hoping to get this compaq to appear on the network of xp
> boxes
> > > > > from
> > > > > >> where it is before switching the dell for it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> it seems, according to an article in linuxquestions.org (
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Samba_up_and_running_NOW
> > > > > )
> > > > > >> that i "*must* add users to your Samba server before they will
> be
> > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > >> access the shares."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> unfortunately, when i try to add a same user as on the dell
> server
> > > to
> > > > > this
> > > > > >> compaq, i get a message that the user already exists.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> oo-kay. should i try to create a new user or two on the windows
> > > computer
> > > > > >> (the one right beside the dell server) so i can add it to samba?
> i'm
> > > > > >> assuming this is so that i can connect to the dell server (which
> is
> > > > > running
> > > > > >> white box linux, by the way).
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> does anyone know what i'm talking about? i thought this would be
> > > > > (slightly)
> > > > > >> easier using the gui.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> thanks for the reply, bill.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> tim
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Bill Leuze <billeuze at shaw.ca>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Timm
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> What exact problem are you having with the new server? Is it
> that
> > > your
> > > > > >>> windows workstations can't connect? what is the symptom?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Bill
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> At 04:25 PM 2008-07-23, Tim Holloway wrote:
> > > > > >>> >hello everyone!
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >it's been quite a while since i've posted, and it's to ask for
> a
> > > > > favour.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >i'm trying to hook up a replacement server so i can work on
> the
> > > > > current
> > > > > >>> >server, basically to install larger hard drives.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >i don't especially think it makes a difference what machine
> i'm
> > > > > running
> > > > > >>> (a
> > > > > >>> >compaq amd 3000+ with 768 MB of ram) to replace the dell
> server.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >the server is running samba, but everything seems labeled and
> > > > > networked
> > > > > >>> >through windows.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >just over 20 windows xp workstations are hooked up to the
> network,
> > > and
> > > > > >>> >there's one particular xp box right next to the dell server.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >i've been trying to use the gui for samba, just so i can get
> > > things
> > > > > done,
> > > > > >>> >and i've been mimicking the configuration on the server, even
> the
> > > > > users
> > > > > >>> in
> > > > > >>> >windows.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >the compaq (replacement) computer is running centOS 5.2
> (stable),
> > > and
> > > > > >>> i've
> > > > > >>> >looked at the little help pages from redhat. i've also googled
> it
> > > (of
> > > > > >>> >course) but keep running into ways to share WINDOWS folders TO
> > > linux
> > > > > >>> instead
> > > > > >>> >of the other way around.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >if anyone has any clue what i'm talking about, please send
> > > something
> > > > > up.
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >i'd better take a closer look at linuxquestions.org
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >cheers,
> > > > > >>> >
> > > > > >>> >tim
> > > > > >>> >
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